tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post4489957737397278243..comments2023-11-01T00:44:43.026-07:00Comments on Blogging on blogging on politics and news - #opwalkabout: The GA RemodelAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-51168138908947391752012-06-28T11:08:02.558-07:002012-06-28T11:08:02.558-07:00I went ahead and started a forum http://garemodel....I went ahead and started a forum http://garemodel.proboards.com/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-33382477056686744222012-06-28T11:07:26.165-07:002012-06-28T11:07:26.165-07:00I started a forum... http://garemodel.proboards.co...I started a forum... http://garemodel.proboards.com/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-12236163952501988472012-06-28T11:06:53.313-07:002012-06-28T11:06:53.313-07:00This discussion has been moved over to the GA remo...This discussion has been moved over to the GA remodel forum<br /><br />http://garemodel.proboards.com/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-67046783468306912822012-06-28T11:06:20.740-07:002012-06-28T11:06:20.740-07:00weird, the SEO tutorial comes up for me... I just ...weird, the SEO tutorial comes up for me... I just copied and pasted the same link you pasted in.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-63285079198924771712012-06-28T10:19:18.911-07:002012-06-28T10:19:18.911-07:00Nothing at this link: http://yoast.com/articles/wo...Nothing at this link: http://yoast.com/articles/wordpress-seo/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-68259066056346861362012-06-28T10:12:16.977-07:002012-06-28T10:12:16.977-07:00Is redmine the system itself hosting projects.occu...Is redmine the system itself hosting projects.occupy.net ?not_mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206789608401464729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-70703435669205430992012-06-28T10:08:16.057-07:002012-06-28T10:08:16.057-07:00I finally went and just looked at the flowchart li...<i>I finally went and just looked at the flowchart link, and i have to say, it actually made 10x more sense to me than the explanation.</i><br /><br />Some people need pictures, some can read text, some need both-- thus why I included both )<br /><br /><i>Redmine</i><br />Will take a look at it now..<br /><br /><i>pearltrees</i><br />Eh, so my basic premise is that I wanted something that's can be easily referenced when I'm looking for a particular thought or piece of information, what I saw from pearltree's looked pretty, but seemed like it might be chaotic when trying to go back later and extract information? Seemed far more visual in that sense? <br /><br />I could be wrong I haven't played with it a whole lot yet.. I'm already losing track of these comments, and having to ctrl+f to specific words then scroll up and down to wherever the reply link is, then scroll up and down to find what im referencing, etc.<br /><br />I suggested a forum, but IMHFO a wiki+forum makes the most sense, but I don't really care what we use so long as we're making forward progress.<br /><br />I'll check out the redmine stuff and then get some links over on the GA/spokescouncil/etc stuffnot_mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206789608401464729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-84167285441532404502012-06-28T09:53:20.854-07:002012-06-28T09:53:20.854-07:00Yeah, there are two threads going on; I agree with...Yeah, there are two threads going on; I agree with what you're saying Elisa, but the we sorta confused things by talking about two different things at oncenot_mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206789608401464729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-74450424248711985012012-06-28T09:51:32.989-07:002012-06-28T09:51:32.989-07:00And the open model for the previous two branches a...<i>And the open model for the previous two branches allows for folks *in* the cells to ring in as they please when it comes to policy.</i><br /><br />exactlynot_mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206789608401464729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-26148027919279328992012-06-28T09:50:49.113-07:002012-06-28T09:50:49.113-07:00Ah, the progressive stack is in order, but minorit...Ah, the progressive stack is in order, but minorities, women, gays, etc first because supposedly we need to show we're not racist misogynistic homophobes and do so by showing we're not the oppressive white people.. /shrug just annoying, like i said, are we color blind/etc or not?<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stacknot_mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206789608401464729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-7355367324695564492012-06-28T09:40:58.317-07:002012-06-28T09:40:58.317-07:00I'm pretty sure we're talking about two di...I'm pretty sure we're talking about two different things.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-65554366413712684242012-06-28T06:00:55.496-07:002012-06-28T06:00:55.496-07:00(Elisa) Ok, so how about this. Decide on education...(Elisa) Ok, so how about this. Decide on educational objectives. Is the focus going to be academic, vocational, or behavioral. Are you interested in teaching people to follow instructions, use stuff, or to be the stuff creators. 101 classes are unnecessary. <br /><br />Why not let the students discover their own philosophies and how to apply them (methodologies)? Recruitment would be a separate process. You would avoid people who would not be a good fit because they would know that & choose not to become involved. There would be data from their studies & a good behavioral interview could be done to weed out anyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-82268985886260175192012-06-28T02:04:00.589-07:002012-06-28T02:04:00.589-07:00Oh and Free School University
http://wiki.occupybo...Oh and Free School University<br />http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/Solidarity/FSUAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-78661168606128530072012-06-28T02:00:57.112-07:002012-06-28T02:00:57.112-07:00Links and resources in no particular order
SEO fo...Links and resources in no particular order<br /><br />SEO for Wordpress<br />http://yoast.com/articles/wordpress-seo/<br /><br />Occupy Boston Wiki<br />http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/Main_Page<br /><br />Basic GA rundown (no description of stack process or progressive stack)<br />http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/General_Assembly<br /><br />Working Groups according to OB<br />http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/Working_Groups<br /><br />Occupy Boston Media<br />http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/MediaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-30307666967120597332012-06-27T21:35:32.510-07:002012-06-27T21:35:32.510-07:00I looked at Redmine - it is robust and seems suita...I looked at Redmine - it is robust and seems suitable. Am wondering: do we need it at this stage in the game? I am thinking it should be worked on as a project, but its implementation should not delay the start up of this effort. And we need a team of people as well as decision about how to approve posts, a host server, security, etc. So maybe we are trying to run before we walk? #js<br /><br />I would really like to continue with the PearlTrees effort as the beginning documentation of this attempt at structure. We still need an online forum that will provide an opportunity to comment and collaborate, but see Redline as programer/expert intensive and not sure the 4 of us have the requisite time to devote to that project. #Burnout before we begin! :) <br /><br />My suggestion is that we implement in stages, as if the current stage was building a Statement of Work. Start with an outline (which we have, but only in the most casual sense of that word); collaboratively add details and brainstorm (this is where something like cryptochat or another "chat" program could be useful); poll current users for intel; move all these details to TreeSheets (LOVE IT!); build a project management schedule for move to Wiki/Redmine. PearlTrees is interim solution to track links and resources.<br /><br />Have thought about having an online (not sure if should be anonymous or not-need discussion) forum set up to post successes and problems with current GA structure. Can start a pearl with links for documentation of that current structure, as well as techniques that have failed/succeeded. The success of some structures may have to do with demographics, something a forum (if we build the registration doc correctly) would tell us ("intel").<br /><br />For now, I would like links from you all that lead to documentation of current structures used and any problems/successes identified. I will begin on Pearl Trees, mapping that data. Since everyone's time is limited, would you all please post your ideas for interim collaboration/chat tools you prefer? What I like about cryptochat is, well, "crypto"...lol! but have to admit I don't know that we need to worry about security at this point in time. Perhaps we just need the ability to limit those who join a chat to those who were invited to. Lemme know what you think. Again, I have limited availability right now as I started a new project and it's full-time for a while.<br /><br />Love to all you dedicated rebels :)Kaymeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-30539086341073229412012-06-27T15:38:52.530-07:002012-06-27T15:38:52.530-07:00I'm on board for redmine, I like it already. N...I'm on board for redmine, I like it already. Now to figure out how to use it...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-9218581583198938932012-06-27T13:27:39.699-07:002012-06-27T13:27:39.699-07:00I finally went and just looked at the flowchart li...I finally went and just looked at the flowchart link, and i have to say, it actually made 10x more sense to me than the explanation. Detail is good though, at least there's a place to start.<br /><br />On another note: I guess a forum, wiki, or even a pad would work for expanding this discussion further without it getting too unwieldy to navigate - but I'm thinking we could try Redmine via projects.occupy.net.<br /><br />Anyone else have experience using Redmine? Click around at the URL above, let me know what y'all think.Cy Maddoxhttps://twitter.com/#!/CyMadD0xnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-57934573443752892492012-06-27T12:26:53.148-07:002012-06-27T12:26:53.148-07:00Plausible deniability FTW!Plausible deniability FTW!Cy Maddoxhttps://twitter.com/#!/CyMadD0xnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-880391087641792442012-06-26T23:09:38.857-07:002012-06-26T23:09:38.857-07:00re: forums; ill sit down in a little bit and see w...re: forums; ill sit down in a little bit and see what I can dig up thats easy to do, google has an amazing amount of services that we can probably get something setup today or tomorrow. This may wait until tomorrow though.. starting to get cooked myself.<br /><br />re: black ops; I totally agree with you Kaymee, on all points, but a key thing to remember is that we'd be opening ourselves up to RICO and such because that single sub-section essentially could make us a criminal enterprise. It's an area that would require a lot of care in basically every aspect and we may find that a think-tank-esque model where we don't actually operate or oversee any of it, but publish plans and 'hey someone should do something like this' and then hope it gets done <b>may</b> end up being the only realistic outcome. My guess is that a lawyer would simply say "don't"<br /><br />Aside from that, I totally agree with you on all points, I was mostly leaving it at 'this is a tricky subject thats going to require more thought and professional advice'not_mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206789608401464729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-34055534952464431082012-06-26T22:58:28.654-07:002012-06-26T22:58:28.654-07:00Okay.. basic proposed flow-- http://twitpic.com/a0...Okay.. basic proposed flow-- http://twitpic.com/a0zqsu<br /><br /><b>policy</b>:<br />The GA says something like 'man the bankers man!', that starts the process essentially.<br /><br /><b>interpretation</b>:<br />Liaison's report back on the GA, 'they said the bankers man'. A sort of round-table discussion on interpreting what they mean, in this case just, we'll say it came out to mean "they want less big business/financial sector influence", <br /><br /><b>actionable?</b>:<br />Can we actually do something about this policy? In other words do they want to fly 20 people to the moon or something? Yes? pass go, No, hit's the floor.<br /><br /><b>planning</b>:<br />Again round-table utilizing all business logic units, from this we'll just say "pass legislation preferential to small and local business", this is where politics/legal/et cetera come in and we determine the how we're going to do it.<br /><br /><b>viable?</b>:<br />Is this something we can realistically do? Do we have the people, funding, et cetera? Yes? pass go, no, back to planning or we shelve it until its viable.<br /><br /><b>logistics</b>:<br />How many cells/people do we need? what do we need to give them to realize the task, et cetera-- also serves generically as the part where the liaisons actually start contacting cells to find out if they're interested, willing and able. To fit within the context of the example, start seeking out cells to canvas neighborhoods and collect signatures for an initiative to pass legislation or whatever.<br /><br /><b>accepts?</b>:<br />Two boxes are here just to underscore that it would be a one-to-many relationship; This is essentially does an individual cell want to be involved? If yes, pass go, if not and strategy finds itself unable to actually complete the task, then it goes back to planning for revision and may/may not get shelved/dumped/whatever depending on context.<br /><br /><b>perform/report back</b>:<br />Exactly what it sounds like, tactical cells perform the task, report back on the outcome and go through whatever after action processes there are.<br /><br />Then we all dance or whatever it is we do until the next policy.not_mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05206789608401464729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-66175783550238295122012-06-26T22:53:02.142-07:002012-06-26T22:53:02.142-07:00No that clears it up entirely thanks! :)No that clears it up entirely thanks! :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-48433583619206625742012-06-26T22:52:01.990-07:002012-06-26T22:52:01.990-07:00Ah...apologies for not being clearer. I don't ...Ah...apologies for not being clearer. I don't think blackops teams should be open to the public, or open in any matter whatsoever to be honest. It's not safe for them or for anyone who has to rely on their results. And I definitely believe we need blackops. What I would like to see is this particular tactical group be extremely rigid about communications structure, and about security structure, while allowed free reign to plan their own ops. Is that any clearer? Reasons for this seem self-evident to me, but please ask if you have further questions.Kaymeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-9587566689876413982012-06-26T22:40:13.448-07:002012-06-26T22:40:13.448-07:00Kaymee, I'm not sure what you mean about struc...Kaymee, I'm not sure what you mean about structure being dictated by 19 yr old hotheads. Can you explain which part you are referencing? The communication between strategy and cells, or allowing black tactical ops to ring in on strategy/ policy? I'm not being deliberately obtuse, I'm just not sure which portion of the threads you are commenting on.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-39458557559926425252012-06-26T22:29:27.441-07:002012-06-26T22:29:27.441-07:00Couple of points just from reading:
Strategy secti...Couple of points just from reading:<br />Strategy section - Key point will be decision-making process about how to interpret what GA mandates. Hardest part?<br />Tactical Black Ops - DISAGREE that this should be open, and that each cell should set own security protocols. Strongly...vehemently...disagree. Details re:getting it done? Fine. Each cell does that. Structure is too important to allow it to be guided by 19 yr old hotheads.Kaymeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2259342987305050436.post-40276222389433109842012-06-26T22:22:22.701-07:002012-06-26T22:22:22.701-07:00IAWTC, I'm familiar enough with moderating for...IAWTC, I'm familiar enough with moderating forums, however setting them up is beyond my ken. I would be willing to invest time into populating and moderating.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16244069333528602637noreply@blogger.com